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		<title>By: HOWTO: disable IPv6 networking in Debian &#124; fak3r</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-1405557</link>
		<dc:creator>HOWTO: disable IPv6 networking in Debian &#124; fak3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] off and get distracted, sure, but come on!  So while its adoption can be argued to be a case of the chicken before the egg, since I&#8217;m not using anything IPv6, nor do I or my ISP even have the capability to use it, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] off and get distracted, sure, but come on!  So while its adoption can be argued to be a case of the chicken before the egg, since I&#8217;m not using anything IPv6, nor do I or my ISP even have the capability to use it, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-939373</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think one of the big problems with IPv6 is that it is really complicated to learn, i tried and i still dont get it 

the main issue is re-education of millions of network engineers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think one of the big problems with IPv6 is that it is really complicated to learn, i tried and i still dont get it </p>
<p>the main issue is re-education of millions of network engineers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Lurker</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-900642</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet has created its own Incumbents and its monopolists. They will be phased out if they sit on their lame hands. Normal users should never ask for an IPv6 address as they never asked for IPv4.   ISPs are a bunch of losers in this respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet has created its own Incumbents and its monopolists. They will be phased out if they sit on their lame hands. Normal users should never ask for an IPv6 address as they never asked for IPv4.   ISPs are a bunch of losers in this respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Adams</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-575966</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with IPv6 is the perception people have of their networks. Under IPv4 people percieve that they are safe behind a NAT router/firewall and also that they pay for one public ip and their network behind the rouuter rides free.
Unfortunately this is also how the greedy ISP&#039;s see it and you can bet your very bottom dollar and your mortgage that the isp&#039;s will charge for every single IPv6 address. Now that&#039;s great if you have a few hundred million yen in your pocket but not so good for small companies. At the moment the best a company can do is run on a ipv4 router and tunnel to IPv6. This offers the best of both worlds. 
Also why dont greedy ISP&#039;s and corporations give up the IPv4 addresses they dont use?
so that we get more time to roll out IPV6
There isnt the security hardware or software yet to cope with IPv6
Its just greed urging people on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with IPv6 is the perception people have of their networks. Under IPv4 people percieve that they are safe behind a NAT router/firewall and also that they pay for one public ip and their network behind the rouuter rides free.<br />
Unfortunately this is also how the greedy ISP&#8217;s see it and you can bet your very bottom dollar and your mortgage that the isp&#8217;s will charge for every single IPv6 address. Now that&#8217;s great if you have a few hundred million yen in your pocket but not so good for small companies. At the moment the best a company can do is run on a ipv4 router and tunnel to IPv6. This offers the best of both worlds.<br />
Also why dont greedy ISP&#8217;s and corporations give up the IPv4 addresses they dont use?<br />
so that we get more time to roll out IPV6<br />
There isnt the security hardware or software yet to cope with IPv6<br />
Its just greed urging people on</p>
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		<title>By: fak3r &#187; HOWTO: disable IPv6 networking in Debian</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-561561</link>
		<dc:creator>fak3r &#187; HOWTO: disable IPv6 networking in Debian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] off and get distracted, sure, but come on!  So while its adoption can be argued to be a case of the chicken before the egg, since I&#8217;m not using anything IPv6, nor do I or my ISP even have the capability to use it, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] off and get distracted, sure, but come on!  So while its adoption can be argued to be a case of the chicken before the egg, since I&#8217;m not using anything IPv6, nor do I or my ISP even have the capability to use it, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Bandwidth</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-515071</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Bandwidth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 1 members originally found by loyda on 2008-10-09  Nobody Is Using IPv6  http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/ - bookmarked by 3 members [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 1 members originally found by loyda on 2008-10-09  Nobody Is Using IPv6  <a href="http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/" rel="nofollow">http://robert.accettura.com/bl.....sing-ipv6/</a> &#8211; bookmarked by 3 members [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-455946</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no demand of IPv6 from the customers, and ISP&#039;s will not provide that service until the IPv4 adresses are out of, that they will go to out at the market for hight prices, then ISP&#039;s vill considering a migration to IPv6. I think we have to promote IPv6 more, without technical words and lift up all the benefits which even end users understand and provide practical user cases where IPV6 is better than IPv4. 

The promotion have to come to the same level so ordinary users can understand, and start asking for IPv6.

One way could be to setup a ipv6 subdomain at your host and only letting people with IPv6 to access that site, where you have little more stuff, If everyone does that the demand for ipv6 will increase. 

I have done that. And hope that people starts asking what IPv6 is in my blog. I hope that i don&#039;t have to mention it before people starts asking me.

Something must happen soon. IPv6 have only come to techsavy people at the moment. Let&#039;s bring IPv6 to the ordinary users, but do it nice with the end users will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no demand of IPv6 from the customers, and ISP&#8217;s will not provide that service until the IPv4 adresses are out of, that they will go to out at the market for hight prices, then ISP&#8217;s vill considering a migration to IPv6. I think we have to promote IPv6 more, without technical words and lift up all the benefits which even end users understand and provide practical user cases where IPV6 is better than IPv4. </p>
<p>The promotion have to come to the same level so ordinary users can understand, and start asking for IPv6.</p>
<p>One way could be to setup a ipv6 subdomain at your host and only letting people with IPv6 to access that site, where you have little more stuff, If everyone does that the demand for ipv6 will increase. </p>
<p>I have done that. And hope that people starts asking what IPv6 is in my blog. I hope that i don&#8217;t have to mention it before people starts asking me.</p>
<p>Something must happen soon. IPv6 have only come to techsavy people at the moment. Let&#8217;s bring IPv6 to the ordinary users, but do it nice with the end users will.</p>
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		<title>By: John Curran</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/08/18/nobody-is-using-ipv6/comment-page-1/#comment-423633</link>
		<dc:creator>John Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - 
 
    The deployment is low because the principal problem addressed by IPv6 (IPv4 address depletion) hasn&#039;t yet occurred. The unfortunate part about this situation is that while many carriers and ISP&#039;s are working on IPv6 internally, it&#039;s not going to be until we absolutely need IPv6 that most enterprises and end-users are going to hear about this major transition.   The reality is that we can&#039;t keep growing the network without doing this, so it will occur.   Current timeline for IPv4 depletion is available here: &lt;a href=&quot;ipv4.potaroo.net&quot; title=&quot;IPv4 Address Report&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;; we&#039;ve got about 3 years left.

/John&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; </p>
<p>    The deployment is low because the principal problem addressed by IPv6 (IPv4 address depletion) hasn&#8217;t yet occurred. The unfortunate part about this situation is that while many carriers and ISP&#8217;s are working on IPv6 internally, it&#8217;s not going to be until we absolutely need IPv6 that most enterprises and end-users are going to hear about this major transition.   The reality is that we can&#8217;t keep growing the network without doing this, so it will occur.   Current timeline for IPv4 depletion is available here: <a href="ipv4.potaroo.net" title="IPv4 Address Report" rel="nofollow">; we&#8217;ve got about 3 years left.</p>
<p>/John</a></p>
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