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		<title>By: GNUvox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechCrunch lancia il Firefox Tablet</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-396791</link>
		<dc:creator>GNUvox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechCrunch lancia il Firefox Tablet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] che software. La novità che riportiamo questa volta riguarda entrambi gli ambiti e si tratta della Firefox Tablet basata su sistema operativo GNU/Linux e il browser della famiglia Mozilla. Di fatto il tablet sarà [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] che software. La novità che riportiamo questa volta riguarda entrambi gli ambiti e si tratta della Firefox Tablet basata su sistema operativo GNU/Linux e il browser della famiglia Mozilla. Di fatto il tablet sarà [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wired Earp</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-393511</link>
		<dc:creator>Wired Earp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert: Without a stylus, it would at least require some sort of intelligent page-zoom system. I wouldn&#039;t trust my fingers to organize Firefox bookmarks on a 1024px screen. Or drag pages around in a content management system. Simplicity should extend to these operations as well. Mouseover feedback is also corrupted in all touch-screen systems I&#039;ve used; it&#039;s really not the same without it. Try right-clicking with your finger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert: Without a stylus, it would at least require some sort of intelligent page-zoom system. I wouldn&#8217;t trust my fingers to organize Firefox bookmarks on a 1024px screen. Or drag pages around in a content management system. Simplicity should extend to these operations as well. Mouseover feedback is also corrupted in all touch-screen systems I&#8217;ve used; it&#8217;s really not the same without it. Try right-clicking with your finger&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-392802</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ted Mielczarek: I wouldn&#039;t consider it scope creep considering no real extra development is needed.  I&#039;d consider it akin to support for extensions in Firefox.  Making it hackable increases the net worth of the device without having to do the work yourself.  Firefox gained a lot from Firebug, AdBlock  and other popular extensions out there.  That push is something that shouldn&#039;t be underestimated.

It&#039;s better to leave it open, rather than to force people to hack the device, and risk bricking it (iPhone hacking).  &quot;If you can&#039;t beat em&#039;... join em&#039;&quot;.

@Wired Earp: Adding a stylus really takes away from the simplicity.  The 90&#039;s are over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ted Mielczarek: I wouldn&#8217;t consider it scope creep considering no real extra development is needed.  I&#8217;d consider it akin to support for extensions in Firefox.  Making it hackable increases the net worth of the device without having to do the work yourself.  Firefox gained a lot from Firebug, AdBlock  and other popular extensions out there.  That push is something that shouldn&#8217;t be underestimated.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s better to leave it open, rather than to force people to hack the device, and risk bricking it (iPhone hacking).  &#8220;If you can&#8217;t beat em&#8217;&#8230; join em&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p>@Wired Earp: Adding a stylus really takes away from the simplicity.  The 90&#8217;s are over.</p>
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		<title>By: Wired Earp</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-390367</link>
		<dc:creator>Wired Earp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want this! Preferrably as a web-only browsing device with no personal computer aspirations.

Hacking must be made possible, though. But while developers and advanced users should be able to acces the OS directly, I think the contraption could be made more usable for the average consumer - not a Linux user - if the most important OS features and settings were to be fronted by the browser interface. Sort of a integrated XUL operating system, exposing the features most relevant for the tablets limited scope of use, although expandable by extensions. I believe that the &quot;integrated&quot; look and feel is a selling point for this kind of gadget, in contrast to the open nature of a full blown OS. Having to maintain both a Firefox theme and a Gnome theme in order to look slick is not an option for the &quot;hip&quot; mainstream audience that this product could very well attract: I would not expect morning commuters to access the news on an iPhone once this product becomes available, but it all hangs on the simplicity of the interface.

Sure there is a need for instant messengers and stuff. I don&#039;t use an IM myself, but I suspect that the dominant messengers on Lunux are easily portable to XUL, if not already available as Firefox extensions. Since only a single operating system is catered for with this tablet, all XUL-to-OS integration should be possible for the right technical fellow without the usual cross-platform considerations, so most &quot;relevant&quot; software could - in theory - be integrated directly into the browser chrome very fast.

I would definitely add a stylus to the list of hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want this! Preferrably as a web-only browsing device with no personal computer aspirations.</p>
<p>Hacking must be made possible, though. But while developers and advanced users should be able to acces the OS directly, I think the contraption could be made more usable for the average consumer &#8211; not a Linux user &#8211; if the most important OS features and settings were to be fronted by the browser interface. Sort of a integrated XUL operating system, exposing the features most relevant for the tablets limited scope of use, although expandable by extensions. I believe that the &#8220;integrated&#8221; look and feel is a selling point for this kind of gadget, in contrast to the open nature of a full blown OS. Having to maintain both a Firefox theme and a Gnome theme in order to look slick is not an option for the &#8220;hip&#8221; mainstream audience that this product could very well attract: I would not expect morning commuters to access the news on an iPhone once this product becomes available, but it all hangs on the simplicity of the interface.</p>
<p>Sure there is a need for instant messengers and stuff. I don&#8217;t use an IM myself, but I suspect that the dominant messengers on Lunux are easily portable to XUL, if not already available as Firefox extensions. Since only a single operating system is catered for with this tablet, all XUL-to-OS integration should be possible for the right technical fellow without the usual cross-platform considerations, so most &#8220;relevant&#8221; software could &#8211; in theory &#8211; be integrated directly into the browser chrome very fast.</p>
<p>I would definitely add a stylus to the list of hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: funtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>funtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be as slim as possible and having a reasonable battery life can be fulfilled only with OLED display, so be patient till it&#039;s mass produced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be as slim as possible and having a reasonable battery life can be fulfilled only with OLED display, so be patient till it&#8217;s mass produced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Mielczarek</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-389345</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Mielczarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really think you need 512Mb to run just a browser? Fennec seems to do ok in ~32mb. Granted it&#039;s got less chrome than Firefox, but still.

Also I think you&#039;re missing the point by trying to make it more of a general-purpose device. He wants it for browsing the web, which will get you pretty far these days. If you start adding scope creep, you&#039;ll fail. (Not that I think he has a great chance at success here anyway, given that he has no product design experience, and he&#039;s asking for ideas from blog commenters...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really think you need 512Mb to run just a browser? Fennec seems to do ok in ~32mb. Granted it&#8217;s got less chrome than Firefox, but still.</p>
<p>Also I think you&#8217;re missing the point by trying to make it more of a general-purpose device. He wants it for browsing the web, which will get you pretty far these days. If you start adding scope creep, you&#8217;ll fail. (Not that I think he has a great chance at success here anyway, given that he has no product design experience, and he&#8217;s asking for ideas from blog commenters&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-388779</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get IceWeasel running in IceWM and call it the &quot;Ice Sheet&quot; or something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get IceWeasel running in IceWM and call it the &#8220;Ice Sheet&#8221; or something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-388728</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George Deka: Very true.  Though given the reasoning for previous trademark claims, I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.  

Besides, I&#039;d say it was limiting to use the Firefox brand.  CrunchTablet, WebTablet, HyperTablet, etc could all be better choices.  Personally I&#039;d prefer something not so web intensive, instead focusing on the hardware&#039;s unique design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George Deka: Very true.  Though given the reasoning for previous trademark claims, I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.  </p>
<p>Besides, I&#8217;d say it was limiting to use the Firefox brand.  CrunchTablet, WebTablet, HyperTablet, etc could all be better choices.  Personally I&#8217;d prefer something not so web intensive, instead focusing on the hardware&#8217;s unique design.</p>
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		<title>By: George Deka</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-388704</link>
		<dc:creator>George Deka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can still call it firefox tablet, if Mozilla bless the changes.

I can see an ideal world where Mozilla gets behind this idea and have the UI gurus (azza et al) develop something fantastic for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can still call it firefox tablet, if Mozilla bless the changes.</p>
<p>I can see an ideal world where Mozilla gets behind this idea and have the UI gurus (azza et al) develop something fantastic for it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheName</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/07/21/firefox-tablet/comment-page-1/#comment-388701</link>
		<dc:creator>TheName</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be called Fennec of course!</description>
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