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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3.0 Skinning Update</title>
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		<title>By: David McRitchie</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-296104</link>
		<dc:creator>David McRitchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mind the listing of back and forward being combined into a single list with the currently active page being marked accordingly.  Would want that drop down on the right side of the total button.   And I want the arrows
to be the same size,  I put no more importance  on one of them vs the other.  

The combined history has an advantage if you were dumping all of the items into a listing or into tabs.  So that is fine with me, in being able to see everything at once.

What I do object to is the fact that with small icons that it is higher than
a standard 16x16 icon.   I also would like to see the distinctive separate
green (/gray) arrows to show if there is anything in that direction (or not).
Green means go -- there is something there.  The  Nightly has this as a  little white scroller type arrows in a HUGE blue blob instead of  fully formed green arrows.   I normally only use the icons to show me if there is something else back or forward,  I normally use the mouse or keyboard shortcuts if I&#039;m not sure of exactly what it was.

My specs: (and it had been this way for a while)
Green arrow if something in that direction, gray if nothing in that direction, and a clear vertical (not curved) separation between the two arrows with list scroller on the right side of the pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mind the listing of back and forward being combined into a single list with the currently active page being marked accordingly.  Would want that drop down on the right side of the total button.   And I want the arrows<br />
to be the same size,  I put no more importance  on one of them vs the other.  </p>
<p>The combined history has an advantage if you were dumping all of the items into a listing or into tabs.  So that is fine with me, in being able to see everything at once.</p>
<p>What I do object to is the fact that with small icons that it is higher than<br />
a standard 16&#215;16 icon.   I also would like to see the distinctive separate<br />
green (/gray) arrows to show if there is anything in that direction (or not).<br />
Green means go &#8212; there is something there.  The  Nightly has this as a  little white scroller type arrows in a HUGE blue blob instead of  fully formed green arrows.   I normally only use the icons to show me if there is something else back or forward,  I normally use the mouse or keyboard shortcuts if I&#8217;m not sure of exactly what it was.</p>
<p>My specs: (and it had been this way for a while)<br />
Green arrow if something in that direction, gray if nothing in that direction, and a clear vertical (not curved) separation between the two arrows with list scroller on the right side of the pair.</p>
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		<title>By: Orrin</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295684</link>
		<dc:creator>Orrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the icons but I don&#039;t like that back and forward are now combined.  I would normally remove the forward button completely, I rarely ever use it (normally I don&#039;t use back that much either but I find that it is more useful then forward, If I go backward I tend to go a different direction, hence I never use forward).

I&#039;d like it if I could remove the forward button again without removing back.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the icons but I don&#8217;t like that back and forward are now combined.  I would normally remove the forward button completely, I rarely ever use it (normally I don&#8217;t use back that much either but I find that it is more useful then forward, If I go backward I tend to go a different direction, hence I never use forward).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like it if I could remove the forward button again without removing back.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Stache</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295663</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Stache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, people! Don&#039;t forget that this is an open source project. If you can do better, get out your GIMP or Photoshop and lend &lt;a href=&quot;http://iconfactory.com/design&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the pros&lt;/a&gt; a helping hand! Designing &lt;a href=&quot;http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/granParadisoUI/icons/iconInventoryWindows.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;111 icons&lt;/a&gt; in both XP and Vista flavours is no piece of cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, people! Don&#8217;t forget that this is an open source project. If you can do better, get out your GIMP or Photoshop and lend <a href="http://iconfactory.com/design" rel="nofollow">the pros</a> a helping hand! Designing <a href="http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/granParadisoUI/icons/iconInventoryWindows.html" rel="nofollow">111 icons</a> in both XP and Vista flavours is no piece of cake.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295621</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™m sure thereâ€™s always lots of debate around any new design but Iâ€™m disappointed that better native integration with Windows has been discarded. The following link brought great hope that Firefox would look great on Vista and especially this quote: â€œVisual integration with Windows and OS X is our primary objective for the Firefox 3 refresh.â€?<br />
<a href="http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/10/10/the-firefox-3-visual-refresh-system-integration/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mozilla.com/faabor.....tegration/</a></p>
<p>Personally, I donâ€™t like the new default style. I think it would be fine as an optional skin, but by default the browser should just blend into the desktop and look as native as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisJF</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295616</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Home icon should have a white roof to be environmentally friendly to reflect sunlight...lol. People, it is a colour. It&#039;s not that big a deal.

Btw, speaking of unrecognizable icons (re: win-privacy icon) I still have a hard time recognizing the windows New Tab icon. To me, it looks too much like a New Window icon. I can&#039;t really tell that there is a tab in the icon. I think the small shape is major problem with the New Tab icon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Home icon should have a white roof to be environmentally friendly to reflect sunlight&#8230;lol. People, it is a colour. It&#8217;s not that big a deal.</p>
<p>Btw, speaking of unrecognizable icons (re: win-privacy icon) I still have a hard time recognizing the windows New Tab icon. To me, it looks too much like a New Window icon. I can&#8217;t really tell that there is a tab in the icon. I think the small shape is major problem with the New Tab icon.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend that you make the back part of the forward/back button on the Mac a bit smaller.  This will reduce the amount of wasted space and still get the keyhole idea across.  I think the forward to back relative sizes on the XP is just about right and the Mac on is disproportionately big. 

I also think there should be some color on the Mac buttons but this seems to be falling on deaf ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend that you make the back part of the forward/back button on the Mac a bit smaller.  This will reduce the amount of wasted space and still get the keyhole idea across.  I think the forward to back relative sizes on the XP is just about right and the Mac on is disproportionately big. </p>
<p>I also think there should be some color on the Mac buttons but this seems to be falling on deaf ears.</p>
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		<title>By: A.T.</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295567</link>
		<dc:creator>A.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, that&#039;s exactly whatI think/hope. I&#039;m on Mac OS  and all the icons are so round it&#039;s hurting my eyes. They are so different from all the other icons on OS X that they have to be temporary icons, otherwise I don&#039;t see where platform integration would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, that&#8217;s exactly whatI think/hope. I&#8217;m on Mac OS  and all the icons are so round it&#8217;s hurting my eyes. They are so different from all the other icons on OS X that they have to be temporary icons, otherwise I don&#8217;t see where platform integration would be.</p>
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		<title>By: lfirefox</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295563</link>
		<dc:creator>lfirefox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Look for XP. 

Vista is the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Look for XP. </p>
<p>Vista is the same?</p>
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		<title>By: John Drinkwater</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/03/24/firefox-30-skinning-update/comment-page-1/#comment-295556</link>
		<dc:creator>John Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A funnier issue with the Main icon is a localisation problem - over in Britain it indicates the switch is in the off position :) [and probably other countries, but I canâ€™t speak with authority]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A funnier issue with the Main icon is a localisation problem &#8211; over in Britain it indicates the switch is in the off position <img src='http://robert.accettura.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  [and probably other countries, but I canâ€™t speak with authority]</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All in all I think the XP changes look great. I don&#039;t mind the yellow roof and the stop and reload buttons look much better now that they are a little fatter, to match the back and forward arrows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all I think the XP changes look great. I don&#8217;t mind the yellow roof and the stop and reload buttons look much better now that they are a little fatter, to match the back and forward arrows.</p>
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