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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2006/09/02/the-need-for-browser-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-55089</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed ie7 rc1 on my computer and run ie6, ie5 and ie5.5 each in vmware player. Any version of opera and netscape can be installed as a standalone. unfortunately, I still have to run over to a designers Mac to test safari and ie5mac.

 Vmware player is free and theres an easy way to &lt;a href=&quot;http://linux.wolphination.com/?p=18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;create vmware player files for any OS&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed ie7 rc1 on my computer and run ie6, ie5 and ie5.5 each in vmware player. Any version of opera and netscape can be installed as a standalone. unfortunately, I still have to run over to a designers Mac to test safari and ie5mac.</p>
<p> Vmware player is free and theres an easy way to <a href="http://linux.wolphination.com/?p=18" rel="nofollow">create vmware player files for any OS</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2006/09/02/the-need-for-browser-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-55067</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can install multiple versions into different directories if you follow the instructions at http://labs.insert-title.com/labs/Multiple-IEs-in-Windows_article795.aspx#WXPIE501 and http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2005/12/28/434132.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can install multiple versions into different directories if you follow the instructions at <a href="http://labs.insert-title.com/labs/Multiple-IEs-in-Windows_article795.aspx#WXPIE501" rel="nofollow">http://labs.insert-title.com/l.....x#WXPIE501</a> and <a href="http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2005/12/28/434132.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.asp.net/jgallow.....34132.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2006/09/02/the-need-for-browser-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-55048</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VMWare Player is free, as well as VMware Server, so the question would be Why to use a MS product instead of a better one?

And as Robert has pointed out not everybody has the Windows CD in order to install wherever they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VMWare Player is free, as well as VMware Server, so the question would be Why to use a MS product instead of a better one?</p>
<p>And as Robert has pointed out not everybody has the Windows CD in order to install wherever they please.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Lacoste</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2006/09/02/the-need-for-browser-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-55031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Lacoste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornelius:
&gt; Why would anyone pay for VMWare anymore?

Because one runs Linux on the desktop ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornelius:<br />
&gt; Why would anyone pay for VMWare anymore?</p>
<p>Because one runs Linux on the desktop ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2006/09/02/the-need-for-browser-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-54901</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornelius:  A few issues:
1.  Many/Most PC&#039;s come with a Windows XP install, but that&#039;s limited to the hardware and won&#039;t install in any virtualized environment, so it requires a minimum investment in another copy of WinXP.  Only documentation I see is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/02/27/virtual_pc_express_windows_within_windows/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/2/28/3018&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, both of which seem related to Vista more than XP.
2.  Any documentation on using the same license with VirtualPC instances?  Can I run 2 instances of Virtual PC (one for IE 5.5, and one for IE 7), and run my primary OS off of one WinXP license?

As to why pay for VMWare, the reasons I could think of would be performance (huge difference), and better hardware emulation (USB is unusable in VPC).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornelius:  A few issues:<br />
1.  Many/Most PC&#8217;s come with a Windows XP install, but that&#8217;s limited to the hardware and won&#8217;t install in any virtualized environment, so it requires a minimum investment in another copy of WinXP.  Only documentation I see is <a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/02/27/virtual_pc_express_windows_within_windows/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">this</a> and <a href="http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/2/28/3018" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">this</a>, both of which seem related to Vista more than XP.<br />
2.  Any documentation on using the same license with VirtualPC instances?  Can I run 2 instances of Virtual PC (one for IE 5.5, and one for IE 7), and run my primary OS off of one WinXP license?</p>
<p>As to why pay for VMWare, the reasons I could think of would be performance (huge difference), and better hardware emulation (USB is unusable in VPC).</p>
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		<title>By: Maimon Mons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maimon Mons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individuals don&#039;t have to pay for vmware server (or, at least, t&#039;s a free download from their website).  You only have to pay for the advanced server stuff, that you wouldn&#039;t generally run on a desktop, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individuals don&#8217;t have to pay for vmware server (or, at least, t&#8217;s a free download from their website).  You only have to pay for the advanced server stuff, that you wouldn&#8217;t generally run on a desktop, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 is free, and your license of WindowsXP is good for any WinXP virtual machines you run on the same machine.  In fact, it was on  the IE Blog where they suggested this setup to test multiple browsers:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/08/24/715752.aspx

Why would anyone pay for VMWare anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 is free, and your license of WindowsXP is good for any WinXP virtual machines you run on the same machine.  In fact, it was on  the IE Blog where they suggested this setup to test multiple browsers:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/08/24/715752.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archi.....15752.aspx</a></p>
<p>Why would anyone pay for VMWare anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Brant Gurganus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brant Gurganus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the best of my knowledge, there is no end-user supported way other than, perhaps, virtual PCs, but the hack that you already mentioned is, I believe, how the IE developers are able to work on a new version of IE without messing up a relatively stable IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the best of my knowledge, there is no end-user supported way other than, perhaps, virtual PCs, but the hack that you already mentioned is, I believe, how the IE developers are able to work on a new version of IE without messing up a relatively stable IE.</p>
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		<title>By: Gen Kanai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen Kanai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Mozilla Community Giving project might be one great way to help cover the costs around browser testing.  We need testers, and testers need equipment/software licenses, etc. 

&lt;a title=&quot;seth’s blog&quot; href=&quot;http://www.sethbindernagel.com/mozilla/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seth’s blog&lt;/a&gt; has more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Mozilla Community Giving project might be one great way to help cover the costs around browser testing.  We need testers, and testers need equipment/software licenses, etc. </p>
<p><a title="seth’s blog" href="http://www.sethbindernagel.com/mozilla/" rel="nofollow">seth’s blog</a> has more details.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this can help you:
http://v03.browsershots.org/?
I never tried it but a friend said it works.
&lt;i&gt;
Browsershots is a free online platform where you can test your web design in different browsers. When you submit your web address, it will be added to the job queue.
A number of distributed computers will automatically open your website in their browser. Then they will make screenshots and upload them to the central server here.
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this can help you:<br />
<a href="http://v03.browsershots.org/?" rel="nofollow">http://v03.browsershots.org/?</a><br />
I never tried it but a friend said it works.<br />
<i><br />
Browsershots is a free online platform where you can test your web design in different browsers. When you submit your web address, it will be added to the job queue.<br />
A number of distributed computers will automatically open your website in their browser. Then they will make screenshots and upload them to the central server here.<br />
</i></p>
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