Comments on: Web 2.0 I can’t hear you http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/ Robert Accettura's Personal Blog on Web Development and Tech Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:31:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dethe Elza http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5653 Dethe Elza Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:16:32 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5653 SVG is also built on top of Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL), which is (XML) designed for coordinating images, movies, text, and audio. http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/ OS X has good text-to-speech capabilities built in, but there are also web services for this. http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/ http://www.research.att.com/projects/tts/demo.html Someone already pointed out VoiceXML, but the cover pages also list SpeechML, CallML, VoxML, and the W3C has a whole section devoted to various voice proposals for browsers. http://xml.coverpages.org/xmlApplications.html http://www.w3.org/Voice/ Again, from the Cover Pages, there are many XML specs for music, some which explicitly tie in with MIDI. http://xml.coverpages.org/xmlMusic.html Outside of XML specs, there is the text format ABC for marking up music, which can be played directly, converted to sheet music, etc. http://staffweb.cms.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/ Of course, that's not all of the media possibilities. The W3C activity on multimodal annotations, including "ink" was linked previously, but the X3D (3D for the web, or VRML in XML) consortium have been making solid progress and there are open-source players available. http://www.web3d.org/ Good article. I think all of this is coming, but look how long it took just to get SVG in the browser. SVG is also built on top of Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL), which is (XML) designed for coordinating images, movies, text, and audio.

http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/

OS X has good text-to-speech capabilities built in, but there are also web services for this.

http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/
http://www.research.att.com/projects/tts/demo.html

Someone already pointed out VoiceXML, but the cover pages also list SpeechML, CallML, VoxML, and the W3C has a whole section devoted to various voice proposals for browsers.

http://xml.coverpages.org/xmlApplications.html
http://www.w3.org/Voice/

Again, from the Cover Pages, there are many XML specs for music, some which explicitly tie in with MIDI.

http://xml.coverpages.org/xmlMusic.html

Outside of XML specs, there is the text format ABC for marking up music, which can be played directly, converted to sheet music, etc.

http://staffweb.cms.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/

Of course, that’s not all of the media possibilities. The W3C activity on multimodal annotations, including “ink” was linked previously, but the X3D (3D for the web, or VRML in XML) consortium have been making solid progress and there are open-source players available.

http://www.web3d.org/

Good article. I think all of this is coming, but look how long it took just to get SVG in the browser.

]]> By: m0ns00n http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5646 m0ns00n Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:09:16 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5646 I absolutely agree that we need sound. I have this problem all the time, specially with my Javascript games. They are completely silent - and I use Linux as a development platform, so there's no Flash available to make my sound. Once upon a time there was BGSOUND, but now all we have is Embed, and by default, firefox/mozilla has no plugin to handle .wav... I absolutely agree that we need sound. I have this problem all the time, specially with my Javascript games. They are completely silent – and I use Linux as a development platform, so there’s no Flash available to make my sound.

Once upon a time there was BGSOUND, but now all we have is Embed, and by default, firefox/mozilla has no plugin to handle .wav…

]]> By: Roberto http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5601 Roberto Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:33:52 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5601 ok, I took a look at those links and even found that SVG 1.2 has Audio/Video elements and ogg vorbis is the suggested audio format/codec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20041027/media.html ok, I took a look at those links and even found that SVG 1.2 has Audio/Video elements and ogg vorbis is the suggested audio format/codec:

http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-S.....media.html

]]> By: AW http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5599 AW Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:34:01 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5599 http://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/ http://www.voicexml.org/specs/multimodal/x+v/12/spec.html http://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/
http://www.voicexml.org/specs/...../spec.html

]]> By: Roberto http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5598 Roberto Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:09:08 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5598 How can we get Audio (and and Video) into the Browser ? There is no HTML tag for that yet. Do you accept a patch for playback of speex and vorbis in an ogg container (audio functions accessable via Javascript). I am currently experimenting with a browser plugin for audio/video. It is based on the www.wigiwigi.com Videophone project. (Ashod Apakian, the guy behind www.wigiwigi.com is commited to standards, open source and AFAIK his technologies are far more advanced than anything else in the audio/video field !!) How can we get Audio (and and Video) into the Browser ? There is no HTML tag for that yet. Do you accept a patch for playback of speex and vorbis in an ogg container (audio functions accessable via Javascript). I am currently experimenting with a browser plugin for audio/video. It is based on the http://www.wigiwigi.com Videophone project. (Ashod Apakian, the guy behind http://www.wigiwigi.com is commited to standards, open source and AFAIK his technologies are far more advanced than anything else in the audio/video field !!)

]]> By: Michael Mahemoff http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2005/09/17/web-20-i-cant-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-5595 Michael Mahemoff Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:38:35 +0000 http://robert.accettura.com/?p=842#comment-5595 Great ideas, audio seems like the natural followup to SVG. In fact, I think the need will become obvious once rich SVG apps start appearing. I like the idea of rolling over an audio icon to hear a talk about how the feature works. Or even a popup multimedia tutorial. Great ideas, audio seems like the natural followup to SVG. In fact, I think the need will become obvious once rich SVG apps start appearing. I like the idea of rolling over an audio icon to hear a talk about how the feature works. Or even a popup multimedia tutorial.

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