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	<title>Comments on: Mozilla Needs BitTorrent</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Accettura&#8217;s Fun With Wordage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-4323</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Accettura&#8217;s Fun With Wordage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I said over a year ago Firefox should support BitTorrent. Opera now has support. No it wouldn&#8217;t support piracy, or any of the other silly comments people have given over the past year about why it shouldn&#8217;t be supported. Launching yet another app to download a file is silly. If Firefox dropped FTP support (because it too is just another protocol, and doesn&#8217;t relate to web browsing). There would be a boat load of complaints. It&#8217;s not a kitchen sink. It&#8217;s a usable protocol. What people do with it is up to them. There are many legitimate BitTorrent uses. Linux distro&#8217;s use it for example. So do some gaming sites (those giant demo&#8217;s). The protocol isn&#8217;t illegal by any means. Just some individuals misuse of the protocol. The web is used for illegal purposes all the time, it doesn&#8217;t mean Firefox encourages it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I said over a year ago Firefox should support BitTorrent. Opera now has support. No it wouldn&#8217;t support piracy, or any of the other silly comments people have given over the past year about why it shouldn&#8217;t be supported. Launching yet another app to download a file is silly. If Firefox dropped FTP support (because it too is just another protocol, and doesn&#8217;t relate to web browsing). There would be a boat load of complaints. It&#8217;s not a kitchen sink. It&#8217;s a usable protocol. What people do with it is up to them. There are many legitimate BitTorrent uses. Linux distro&#8217;s use it for example. So do some gaming sites (those giant demo&#8217;s). The protocol isn&#8217;t illegal by any means. Just some individuals misuse of the protocol. The web is used for illegal purposes all the time, it doesn&#8217;t mean Firefox encourages it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James William Pye</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>James William Pye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote for it. :mrgreen:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236755</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote for it. <img src='http://robert.accettura.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236755" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236755</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Boström</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Boström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 00:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main advantage of integrating BitTorrent into Mozilla/Firefox is that the browser itself and the plugins can then use that protocol to receive data without the user having to go through the save-to-desktop-and-click-icon procedure.

This means that really large BT files can be embedded into a regular HTTP web page. That&#039;s mostly useful for multimedia, which Gecko doesn&#039;t really do at the moment. If it handled SMIL, then BT support would be what would actually make it possible for anyone to serve such sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main advantage of integrating BitTorrent into Mozilla/Firefox is that the browser itself and the plugins can then use that protocol to receive data without the user having to go through the save-to-desktop-and-click-icon procedure.</p>
<p>This means that really large BT files can be embedded into a regular HTTP web page. That&#8217;s mostly useful for multimedia, which Gecko doesn&#8217;t really do at the moment. If it handled SMIL, then BT support would be what would actually make it possible for anyone to serve such sites.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually about to start work on this feature until I found this page by accident and discovered you were already working on it. I think BT support in the downloads window of FireFox will be the next killer feature and absolutely needs to be implemented. I was planning to do it as a plugin and base it off a stripped down version of the azureus java BT client(sp?) but having it be a native feature would be 10000x cooler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually about to start work on this feature until I found this page by accident and discovered you were already working on it. I think BT support in the downloads window of FireFox will be the next killer feature and absolutely needs to be implemented. I was planning to do it as a plugin and base it off a stripped down version of the azureus java BT client(sp?) but having it be a native feature would be 10000x cooler.</p>
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		<title>By: alex_m</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator>alex_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great idea man :lol::lol::lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great idea man <img src='http://robert.accettura.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> :lol::lol:</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree, I think first Mozilla.org should host torrents for their own appliactions, and then see what happens.

As for native bittorrent support in mozilla, why?
Why not just use your favorite bittorent client for your particular os?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree, I think first Mozilla.org should host torrents for their own appliactions, and then see what happens.</p>
<p>As for native bittorrent support in mozilla, why?<br />
Why not just use your favorite bittorent client for your particular os?</p>
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		<title>By: dietrich</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree totally.

to answer jed&#039;s question:

support should be in mozilla because:

- there are *no* favorite bittorent clients. it&#039;ll make bittorrent usage easier than any of the clunky clients out there.

- another awesome, forward-looking feature in firefox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree totally.</p>
<p>to answer jed&#8217;s question:</p>
<p>support should be in mozilla because:</p>
<p>- there are *no* favorite bittorent clients. it&#8217;ll make bittorrent usage easier than any of the clunky clients out there.</p>
<p>- another awesome, forward-looking feature in firefox</p>
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		<title>By: bsander</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>bsander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason I think this should _NOT_ be in mozilla but be an extension at best is that, as you said, BitTorrent uploads when it downloads. If an end user clicks a bittorrent link, it gets handled like a regular ftp of http download, I don&#039;t think they would be pleased when their entire upstream gets clottered. Especially not people who are still on 56k or less.
As an extension, fine. In the default extension pack that comes with the Firefox installer, fine. But this needs to be an optional installation, and should require an additional step to make people understand what&#039;s happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason I think this should _NOT_ be in mozilla but be an extension at best is that, as you said, BitTorrent uploads when it downloads. If an end user clicks a bittorrent link, it gets handled like a regular ftp of http download, I don&#8217;t think they would be pleased when their entire upstream gets clottered. Especially not people who are still on 56k or less.<br />
As an extension, fine. In the default extension pack that comes with the Firefox installer, fine. But this needs to be an optional installation, and should require an additional step to make people understand what&#8217;s happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerv</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.

libtorrent (&lt;a href=&quot;http://libtorrent.sf.net)&quot;&gt;http://libtorrent.sf.net)&lt;/a&gt; is MIT-licensed, and could be rolled into Mozilla. We&#039;d need to hook it up to downloads of type application/x-torrent.

The current BT apps _all_ have poor UI. This could be a tabbed-browsing/popup-blocking sized killer feature.

Great for someone interested in hacking on the network layer :-)

Gerv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>libtorrent (<a href="http://libtorrent.sf.net)"></a><a href="http://libtorrent.sf.net" rel="nofollow">http://libtorrent.sf.net</a>) is MIT-licensed, and could be rolled into Mozilla. We&#8217;d need to hook it up to downloads of type application/x-torrent.</p>
<p>The current BT apps _all_ have poor UI. This could be a tabbed-browsing/popup-blocking sized killer feature.</p>
<p>Great for someone interested in hacking on the network layer <img src='http://robert.accettura.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gerv</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hodel</title>
		<link>http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2004/03/03/mozilla-needs-bittorrent/comment-page-1/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when can we see your patches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when can we see your patches?</p>
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